From “Baby Making” to Making Love: My Appearance on The Wholesome Fertility Podcast
Is your intimacy starting to feel like a chore?
We need to talk about the elephant in the bedroom for couples trying to conceive (TTC). When you are focused on ovulation schedules, temperature checks, and timed intercourse, sex can quickly shift from a passionate connection to a mechanical “to-do” list item.
I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with Michelle Oravitz on The Wholesome Fertility Podcast to discuss exactly this. We dove deep into why pleasure isn’t just a luxury—it’s actually a biological necessity for conception.
If you’ve been feeling like your sex life has been hijacked by the baby-making schedule, this episode is the breath of fresh air you’ve been waiting for.
About The Wholesome Fertility Podcast
If you aren’t already listening to this show, it is a fantastic resource. Michelle Oravitz is a fertility acupuncturist and author who has created a sanctuary for those on the path to parenthood.
The show blends modern science, holistic medicine, and ancient wisdom to help women optimize their reproductive health. Whether she is doing a solo episode or interviewing experts, Michelle covers everything from:
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Improving egg quality and balancing hormones.
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Navigating IVF, PCOS, and endometriosis.
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Mind-body approaches like meditation and nutrition.
It is all about reclaiming your fertility and moving forward with clarity and confidence.
What We Covered: Passion, Pleasure, and Fertility
In this episode, Michelle and I explored the powerful connection between passion and your biology. My goal was to share my 20+ years of experience to help couples transform “having sex” back into “making love,” even when there is a goal in mind.
We discussed how stress acts as a barrier to fertility and why we need to prioritize joy. I shared my specific insights on male performance challenges and the importance of using natural, fertility-friendly products so you aren’t inadvertently harming your chances while trying to help them.
The 3 Keys to Conception
During the interview, I broke down my three essential keys to conception from a sex expert’s perspective. These aren’t just about feeling good; they are about creating the optimal physiological environment for a baby:
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Relaxation: Moving out of “fight or flight” and into “rest and digest” (and breed!).
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Connection: Re-establishing the heart-centered bond with your partner.
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Engorgement: Increasing blood flow to the reproductive organs.
We also got into the specifics of Yoni Massage and how it boosts Nitric Oxide, as well as why Oxytocin (the cuddle hormone) is absolutely life-changing for both partners.
Key Takeaways From The Episode
If you are ready to stop “trying” and start connecting, here is what you will learn in this episode:
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Shifting the Dynamic: Why fertility efforts often make intimacy feel mechanical and exactly how to shift that energy back to romance.
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The Science of Arousal: How practices like Yoni massage and boosting Nitric Oxide support female arousal and, subsequently, fertility.
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The Power of Oxytocin: The often-overlooked role of this hormone in conception, joy, and creating a long-term bond that survives the stress of TTC.
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Practical Tools: Actionable strategies to reduce stress and reignite pleasure.
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Holistic Support: How to support both partners—emotionally and physically—through the journey.
Susan’s Note: This episode isn’t just about getting pregnant. It is about planting the seeds for a lifetime of passion, ensuring that your relationship remains vibrant and loving regardless of where you are on your fertility journey.
Listen here:
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